NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama's purported Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.
"Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.
"The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike," he said.
"To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles," he continued. "So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That's why the letters in the forged document do not match each other."
Astonishing how the media and others otherwise responsible for investigation such extremely serious things... are oddly disinterested at best, and derangedly hostile at worst, towards any and all questions and proofs.
They're not disinterested in digging up something on, say, Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann.
They, however, will stop at nothing to protect Barack Hussein Barry Soetoro Obama from the truth about who he is and where he's from.
Fishy, ain't it?
"Astonishing how the media and others otherwise responsible for investigation such extremely serious things... are oddly disinterested at best, and derangedly hostile at worst, towards any and all questions and proofs."
Amazing, isn't it?
And amazing how almost the entire Republican Party, which stands to gain enormously from such a discovery, keeps treating birfers like crazy people.
And amazing how even the most caustic critics of Obama, like Ms. Coulter, think birfers are nuts.
And amazing how, with all the evil resources of that evil George Soros and the evil Arabs and the evil Lesbo-Gay International Conspiracy and the Evil Commie empire behind him, Obama could produce a forgery that fools everyone except for a former typewriter repairman or whatever.
I love this stuff. Keep it coming!
An interesting rebuttal can be found here: http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/debunking-paul-irey/
I'll reserve judgemt until the Patriarch releases his report.
What's absolutely hilarious about Irey's "analysis" is that he gets it 100%, completely wrong.
If every letter were exactly identical, THAT would be evidence of digital forgery. Because no two keystrokes from a mechanical device - as opposed to a digital device - are identical.
Oh, well. The birfers aren't particularly renowned for their capacity for critical thought. Right, Scenty? ;)
Here's another amusing debunking of Paul Irey. It points out that "typographers" don't usually know much about typewriters - they're printers.
Censorship at Sentinel's Place!!
The horror the horror.
I don't know why you take out time to do this moderation.
PS: Welcome back Balbul, I missed you. As did Sentinel no doubt. heh
Bone from the father
Flesh from the servant
Blood of the enemy
Do you really expect character variations between a manual typewriter and an IBM Selectric to be similar?
The comparison is moot at best and, in this particular case, desperate.
I thought we agreed that the primary document needed to be in evidence before we go any further.
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I don't know who L.E. King Jr. is.
But thanks for admitting that a PDF image of a document that by law requires authentication just isn't good enough.
July 08, 2011 4:49 PM
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July 10, 2011 9:18 AM
Oh, go play with the Missus, Canuckguy, and chill...
"If every letter were exactly identical, THAT would be evidence of digital forgery. Because no two keystrokes from a mechanical device - as opposed to a digital device - are identical."
Thanks balbamort, for your affirmation that the signature on the long form is a fake.
“"No person can write with mathematical perfection," he said. "It's impossible. But a computer can easily write with mathematical perfection."”
Read more: Mathematical 'proof' Obama birth certificate a forgery http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=319221#ixzz1SUdf4Qux
CBS News Poll analysis by the CBS News Polling Unit:
This poll was conducted among a random sample of 1,224adults nationwide, interviewed by telephone April 15-20, 2011.
Just this Friday Obama said his birthday was the... 22nd of July?
There's no original long form.
ABC spins it as a senior moment.
That's no ordinary slip of the tongue. The president is a very scheduled person. He knows the calendar.
"Thanks balbamort, for your affirmation that the signature on the long form is a fake."
That makes no sense.
"Balbulican doesn't want to accept proof that damages his guy."
You know, Scenty, there really is quite a lot to criticize about Obama's governance and policies. Now that would require that you actually make the effort to read and understand them, and then to apply a little grown-up analysis to them. And I understand how much easier it is to cut and pasted undigested links from WND (even if it means endorsing visions of the Apocalypse), or posting infantile photoshopping.
And that's ok. Everybody needs a hobby. Yours is posting bullshit: mine is pointing it out. :)
Actually, Balbulican's hobby is being annoying. He loooooves it. Rich "progressives" have too much time on their hands. ;)
Hey Balb, Great to see you are back from the vacation, but you have once again spent a little too much time in the sun without your hat on.
I would like to paint a scenario for you to consider and please be honest in your reply.
If you were running a business would you use Obama's B/C as currency or would you call the police and claim it as counterfeit?
You have worked hard to produce a film with your company, production, editing and duplication costs run you $2.1M and you have put in 2500 hours to get the final product to market.
Obama walks in to your business and tells you that he loves your work and wants to buy each and every copy of your work and believes that your work is a life changing piece, needed to be seen by every head of state in the world and distributed to all government officials. He is willing to buy your whole inventory for $10M, but you would have to take the money is his briefcase right now, no scrutiny, no questions about its origin, and you weren't allowed to count it, he just reaches in and grabs a crisp, new $100 dollar bill and hands it to you and says there is more just like it in the case, WOULD YOU TAKE IT?
Knowing what you know about the man, his politics, his M/O and the lack of transparency in his life, is the money good? Are you about to become a very wealthy man or a fool?
Your answer please?
Heh. Annoyance is one possible reaction, I guess.
Oh, what an intelligent answer. Sure ain't evasive, either.
Liberals hate inconvenient parallel hypotheticals.
And intelligent liberals especially hate it when the adult-education thing is used against them in a surprising turnaround. They know when they're being taught, and they refuse to cooperate, else they might learn something, like they were wrong all along.
Ah, I see the Balbster studied some of his stuff in Antigonish... Got an X-ring, dude? ;)
I think all reasonable folks here have already concluded that Balbulican just doesn't give a feck whether Obama does or doesn't meet the Constitution's Eligibility requirements.
And that this opens a dangerous door to utter disregard for the Constitution... by ALL. Including people who want to ban abortion (wait, that's not protected by the Constitution anyway), ban gay marriage (oh wait... ditto)... Hmm... Ok, parallel: What if it was proven via the Huffington Post that Michele Bachmann's birth certificate was a fraud? Well, then the GOP could lie and say, oh, they looked at it and saw that it was good, so the Birfers can shut up...
Sarcasm... love doing it!
Oh, and how about doing racial profiling on Muslims/Arabs at airports and subjecting them to pornnoscans and sexual assaults? Unconstitutional? Who cares about the Constitution? Obama and his supporters, including Balbulican, sure don't, as we can blatantly see.
Oops, that should spell "pornoscans"...
Oh, and, hey, Balbulican, if we don't have to give a feck about Constitutions, then hey, we don't have to give a feck about those aboriginal Treaties in Canada. After all, they're centuries-old anachronisms that stand in the way of progress and stuff, so screw the Treaties and impose full equality onto all aboriginals all over Canada. No more welfare. No more communist, corrupt bands. Just assimilate them as... CANADIANS!
But... for Balbulican, while the US Constitution, at least one particular Clause therein, is irrelvant, he'll say that we "must respect the Treaties"...
I just love hypocritical progs. Don't you?
Oh, hey, Balbs... been to America recently, via airport?
If so, did some guy feel your wee-wee up? Did you enjoy it? Or were you wondering whether it violates civil rights?
Oh, and if it's ok to violate civil rights, then racial profiling is no worse than raping people at random "to prevent terrorism"?
Re the X ring: yup.
Re the rest - dude, what does it tell you, and the rest of the world, when your last line of defense is to retreat into authentically incoherent, nearly random ranting?
Clarity, son. Rationality. Linear thought. Try it. You might learn something.
And the "weewee thing"?
Confidentially, Scenty - grownups don't talk like that. Catch my drift?
Balb, is that really the best you can muster?
Annoyance? Is that all you would be, really?
If it is, your cupboard is bare and your integrity is in question.
Thanks for doing business with you.
By the way, I have a great invention I just have to show you,...No...really!!!
"If you were running a business would you use Obama's B/C as currency or would you call the police and claim it as counterfeit?"
If that's an oblique way of asking whether whether I believe the document is genuine - yeah, I think it probably is. The "evidence" disputing its authenticity, has, in my opinion, been weak, in some cases nonsensical, and inevitably advanced by people with either political or actual real profits to make ("birtherism" has become WND's brand, from a marketing perspective). In order to maintain their belief, birthers have had to spin an ever growing conspiracy theory that gets more ludicrous with each iteration (e.g., the recent suggestion by Corsi that Donald Trump was conspiring with Obama to make birthers look bad.) It is exactly the same bad thinking I see among conspiracy theorists of any stripe, from truthers to vaccinophobes to flat earthers.
"You have worked hard to produce a film with your company ... Are you about to become a very wealthy man or a fool?"
So - if the President of the United States walked into my room and offered me 10M. for the rights to my video catalogue, would I accept it? Uh, yeah. I would accept it from pretty much any president of the US, including Richard Nixon.
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